Robotic salvage prostatectomy

Robotic removal of the prostate when cancer comes back inside it after radiation, seed implants, HIFU or freezing treatment. It can cure carefully selected men, but scar tissue makes it harder than a first-time prostatectomy, and leakage and other side effects are more common.

Also called Salvage radical prostatectomy, SRP, Salvage RARP, Robotic salvage radical prostatectomy, Prostatectomy after radiation, Surgery after failed radiation, Surgery after seed implants, Surgery after HIFU

Where
Hospital operating room, ideally in a center that does salvage surgery regularly
Anesthesia
General anesthesia (fully asleep)
Time in the room
About 3 to 5 hours
Hospital stay
Usually 1 to 2 nights
Going home with
Urinary catheter for about 1 to 3 weeks, often checked with an X-ray dye test before removal; sometimes a drain for a few days
Back to normal
About 4 to 8 weeks
Back to work
Desk work in about 2 to 4 weeks; heavy physical work in about 6 to 8 weeks
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Where it happens. The highlighted part is what this procedure treats.

Overview

Salvage means a treatment given when a first treatment has not fully worked. Radiation, seed implants, HIFU and freezing treatments cure many men with prostate cancer. In some men, the cancer comes back inside the prostate months or years later. When it has come back only in the prostate and nowhere else, removing the prostate is one way to cure it.

The earlier treatment changes the tissue. Radiation in particular leaves the prostate small, hard and scarred, glues the layers around it together, and damages small blood vessels so healing is slower. The thin plane between the prostate and the rectum, which is easy to find in a first-time operation, may be stuck. That is why salvage surgery is harder and why leakage, scar narrowing of the new join, and injury to the rectum are more likely. Modern robotic surgery, with its magnified view, has lowered these risks compared with older open operations, but they remain higher than after a first prostatectomy.

Careful selection matters more here than almost anywhere in prostate cancer care. Before surgery, a biopsy should prove the cancer is back in the prostate, and a PSMA PET scan should show no spread elsewhere. The best candidates are healthy, expected to live at least 10 more years, and have a lower PSA. Many centers discuss each case with radiation oncologists and medical oncologists before deciding.

Expect honest trade-offs. Many carefully selected men are free of cancer years later. But most men have weak or absent erections afterward (many already did after radiation), leakage is more common and more severe, and some men later choose an artificial urinary sphincter. Other salvage treatments, such as HIFU, freezing, or more radiation, have not been compared with surgery in randomized trials, so the choice depends on your cancer, your health and your priorities.

The parts of your body involved

The prostate sits below the bladder and in front of the rectum, with the urinary sphincter just below it. After radiation, the prostate shrinks and becomes firm, the fat layer between it and the rectum turns to scar, the sphincter and urethra lose some of their stretch, and the bladder neck can thicken. After HIFU or freezing, the scarring is often patchier and limited to the treated area. These changes are what make the operation slower and its side effects more likely.

  • Prostate after earlier treatment

    Usually smaller and harder than before, with scar tissue inside and around it. The recurring cancer may be in one spot or several.

  • Rectum

    The bowel directly behind the prostate. After radiation, the two can be stuck together by scar, which is the main reason for the higher risk of rectal injury.

  • Urinary sphincter

    The ring of muscle below the prostate that keeps you dry. Radiation can weaken it and make it less elastic, which is why leakage is more common afterward.

  • Bladder neck and urethra

    These are sewn together after the prostate is removed. Tissue with a poorer blood supply heals more slowly and can narrow with scar.

  • Seminal vesicles

    Two small glands behind the prostate, removed with it. After radiation they are often fixed in scar.

  • Pelvic lymph nodes

    Small filters along the pelvic blood vessels. They are usually removed and checked during salvage surgery.

Why it’s done

Salvage prostatectomy is offered when cancer has returned in the prostate, is not known to have spread, and the man is healthy enough to benefit from a second attempt at cure.

  • A second chance at cure

    When the cancer is confined to the prostate, removing it can cure many carefully selected men, which hormone therapy alone cannot do.

  • Avoiding or delaying hormone therapy

    Without local treatment, most men eventually need hormone therapy, which can cause hot flashes, tiredness, weight gain, bone thinning and loss of sex drive. A successful salvage operation can avoid or delay it for years.

  • A complete pathology report

    The whole prostate and the lymph nodes are examined, showing exactly how much cancer there is and whether it reached the edges or the nodes. This guides any next step.

  • Simple follow-up with PSA

    With the prostate gone, the PSA should fall to undetectable, which makes any later return easy to detect.

  • When other salvage options fit poorly

    Cancer in several spots, in the seminal vesicles, or in a large gland can be hard to treat fully with HIFU or freezing, and more radiation is limited after full-dose radiation. Surgery may fit these situations better.

Other options

  • Salvage HIFU

    Focused ultrasound from a probe in the rectum heats and destroys the recurring cancer, sometimes only part of the gland. Recovery is quick, but side effects are more common after radiation than in first-time treatment.

  • Salvage cryoablation

    Freezing needles placed through the skin between the scrotum and anus destroy the recurring cancer. It is one of the most studied salvage options after radiation.

  • Salvage brachytherapy or other re-irradiation

    In selected centers, seeds or a short course of highly focused radiation can treat the recurrence, usually after external beam radiation rather than after seeds.

  • Hormone therapy

    Medicines that lower or block testosterone control prostate cancer for years in most men but do not cure it. Some men start it when the PSA rises quickly or symptoms appear.

  • Watching closely

    For older men or those with other serious illness, especially when the PSA rises slowly, careful monitoring may be reasonable because the cancer may not cause harm in their lifetime.

  • A clinical trial

    Studies are testing new salvage treatments and combinations. Ask whether one fits you.

Getting ready

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Weeks to months before

The week before

The day before

The morning of surgery

In the operating room, step by step

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1. Going to sleep and tilting head-down

The anesthesiologist puts you fully to sleep and places a breathing tube. A catheter is placed into the bladder. Your arms are tucked and padded, and the table is tilted head-down so the bowel slides out of the pelvis.

More detail

If the urethra is narrowed from radiation, the catheter may be placed with the help of a small scope. The tilt is usually about 25 to 30 degrees, as in a first-time robotic prostatectomy.

  1. The anesthesiologist puts you fully to sleep and places a breathing tube. A catheter is placed into the bladder. Your arms are tucked and padded, and the table is tilted head-down so the bowel slides out of the pelvis.

    More detail

    If the urethra is narrowed from radiation, the catheter may be placed with the help of a small scope. The tilt is usually about 25 to 30 degrees, as in a first-time robotic prostatectomy.

  2. Your surgeon makes about six small cuts across the belly, with the camera opening near the belly button. Ports go through each cut, and carbon dioxide gas lifts the belly wall to give room to work. Surgeons call this gas-filled space a pneumoperitoneum. It is kept at a gentle pressure, usually 12 to 15 mmHg, and it is what gives the camera and instruments room to move.

    More detail

    Radiation to the prostate does not usually scar the belly wall, so the port layout is the same as for a first-time operation.

  3. The robotic cart is rolled up and its arms attached to the ports. Your surgeon sits at the console in the same room and controls every movement of the 3D camera and instruments. The robot never moves on its own. A bedside assistant and nurse stay beside you.

    More detail

    The magnified view helps the surgeon find the faint differences in color and texture between scar and healthy tissue, which matters a great deal in salvage surgery.

  4. Your surgeon releases the bladder from the front belly wall and lets it drop back, opening the space in front of the prostate. After radiation, the tissues here may be stiff and stuck, so this is done slowly. The fat on the front of the prostate is cleared.

    More detail

    Some surgeons use a Retzius-sparing approach from behind the bladder for salvage surgery too. The choice depends on the surgeon's experience and on where the cancer and scar are.

  5. Your surgeon opens the thin sheets along the sides of the prostate and divides the bladder neck where it meets the prostate. After radiation the bladder neck is often thick, and the openings of the ureters, the tubes from the kidneys, are watched closely.

    More detail

    If the ureter openings are close to the cut, the surgeon may place thin temporary tubes (stents) into them to protect them. A thick bladder neck sometimes needs to be narrowed with stitches before it is joined to the urethra.

  6. Behind the bladder neck, your surgeon clips and divides the vas deferens tubes and frees the seminal vesicles, which are often fixed in scar after radiation.

    More detail

    Cancer that has grown into the seminal vesicles is one reason surgery may be chosen over focal treatments, which cannot reach them as well.

  7. Your surgeon opens the plane between the back of the prostate and the rectum. After radiation, the two are often stuck together by scar, so this is done slowly with very little heat. The surgeon may take extra tissue with the prostate rather than cut close to the rectum.

    More detail

    The bedside assistant may place a smooth dilator in the rectum so the surgeon can see exactly where its wall is. This step is where rectal injury is most likely. When it happens, it is usually seen right away and repaired in layers.

  8. The blood vessels along the sides of the prostate are closed with clips and divided. In most salvage operations, the nerve bundles are removed with the prostate, because the cancer may be close to them and because radiation has often already damaged them.

    More detail

    In selected men, especially after focal treatment on one side only, the nerves on the untreated side can sometimes be spared. Ask your surgeon before surgery whether this is realistic for you.

  9. Your surgeon seals the vein cluster on top of the prostate and cuts across the urethra at the tip of the prostate. As much healthy urethra as possible is kept, but the cut must also clear the cancer. With this cut, the prostate is free.

    More detail

    After radiation, the urethra and sphincter are stiffer and shorter, which is one reason leakage is more common. The catheter is pulled back during this step and passed forward again later.

  10. The prostate goes into a bag. Your surgeon then removes the lymph nodes along the large blood vessels on both sides of the pelvis, which is usually advised in salvage surgery.

    More detail

    Radiation can scar the tissue around the vessels too, so the node removal may take longer. The iliac vessels and the obturator nerve, which moves the thigh inward, are kept intact.

  11. The bladder neck is sewn to the urethra over a fresh catheter. Scarred tissue does not stretch well, so the surgeon may free more of the bladder to bring it down without tension and may add a support stitch behind the join.

    More detail

    A join without tension and with good blood supply heals best. Even so, poorer blood supply after radiation means leaks and later scar narrowing are more common than after a first-time operation.

  12. The bladder is filled with salt water to check the join for leaks. Many surgeons also check the rectum: the pelvis is filled with water and a little air is passed into the rectum, and bubbles would show a hidden hole. A thin drain is usually left in the pelvis.

    More detail

    A small rectal injury found now is repaired in layers, sometimes with a flap of nearby tissue placed between the rectum and the join. Very rarely, a temporary colostomy, an opening of the bowel on the belly, is needed to let a repair heal.

  13. The robot is undocked and the gas let out. One opening, usually at the belly button, is widened slightly to remove the bag. The cuts are closed with dissolving stitches and skin glue.

    More detail

    The prostate and lymph nodes go to the pathology lab. The report usually takes about 1 to 2 weeks.

  14. You wake with a catheter that holds the new join steady while it heals. After salvage surgery it usually stays for about 1 to 3 weeks, longer than after a first-time operation. Many surgeons check the join with an X-ray dye test (cystogram) before removing it.

    More detail

    Some surgeons also place a second catheter through the lower belly. Never let anyone remove or replace the catheter outside your surgeon's plan.

Your surgeon is in control the whole time

The surgeon sits at a console a few steps from you and moves every instrument with hand controls and foot pedals. The robot cannot move on its own or make decisions.

A magnified 3D view

A camera on one arm gives the surgeon a bright, three-dimensional picture magnified about ten times, which helps them see small nerves and vessels.

Wristed instruments through keyholes

The instruments are about the width of a pencil and bend like a wrist inside your body, so the surgeon can stitch and dissect through small openings.

A team at your side

A bedside assistant and a scrub nurse stay at the table, and the anesthesia team watches your breathing and blood pressure throughout. Most U.S. hospitals use the da Vinci system made by Intuitive.

After the operation

In the hospital

  • The recovery room

    You are watched for 1 to 2 hours. Your throat may be sore and your face puffy from the tilt.

  • Walking and eating

    You walk the evening of surgery or the next morning. You can usually drink the same day and eat light food the next day. If the rectum was repaired, your surgeon may ask you to go slower with food.

  • Pain control

    Most men do well with scheduled acetaminophen and few opioid pills.

  • Drain

    The drain is usually removed before you go home, once the fluid slows and tests show it is not urine.

  • Catheter teaching

    A nurse shows you how to manage the leg bag and night bag and how to care for the catheter for the longer stretch ahead.

  • Going home

    Most men go home after 1 to 2 nights.

At home

  • Pain

    Expect soreness at the cuts and some shoulder-tip gas pain for 1 to 3 days. Acetaminophen on schedule usually controls it.

  • Wounds and showering

    You can usually shower after 24 to 48 hours. Avoid baths and swimming until the cuts are healed and the catheter is out.

  • Catheter care

    Keep the bag below the bladder, wash the tip of the penis daily, and use lubricant where the tube enters. Expect the catheter for 1 to 3 weeks.

  • Bladder spasms

    Cramps with urine leaking around the catheter are common, and after radiation the bladder can be more irritable. Ask about spasm medicine.

  • Bowels

    Take a stool softener and avoid straining. Never use enemas, suppositories or rectal thermometers unless your surgeon says so, because the rectum may have been worked on closely.

  • Activity and lifting

    Walk several times a day. Avoid lifting more than about 10 to 15 pounds, hard exercise and bicycle riding for about 6 weeks.

  • Driving and work

    Do not drive while the catheter is in or while you take opioid pills. Desk work is often possible after 2 to 4 weeks.

  • Leakage after the catheter

    Expect leakage, sometimes heavy at first. Use pads or absorbent underwear, start Kegel exercises, and keep working with a pelvic floor therapist.

  • Sex

    Many men already had weak erections after radiation. Pills, a vacuum device, injections or a penile implant can help, and your team can guide you once you have healed.

Recovery timeline

  1. Day 0
    Surgery day

    Surgery takes about 3 to 5 hours. You wake with a catheter and usually a drain.

  2. Days 1 to 2
    Going home

    The drain comes out and you go home with the catheter.

  3. Weeks 1 to 2
    Pathology results

    Your surgeon reviews the grade, margins, seminal vesicles and lymph nodes.

  4. Weeks 1 to 3
    Catheter out

    After an X-ray dye test shows the join has healed, the catheter is removed. Leakage is expected.

  5. Weeks 4 to 8
    Back to most activities

    Energy returns and most daily activities are back to normal.

  6. Weeks 6 to 12
    First PSA test

    The PSA should be undetectable or very low.

  7. 3 to 12 months
    Leakage settling

    Leakage improves for many men over the first year. If it is still heavy at 6 to 12 months, your team may discuss an artificial urinary sphincter or another treatment.

  8. Long term
    Ongoing PSA checks

    PSA tests continue for life, often every 3 to 6 months at first and then less often.

What it feels like

Men facing salvage surgery have usually lived through one cancer treatment already, and hearing that the cancer is back is often harder than the first diagnosis. The operation is a real second chance, and it asks more of you in recovery.

  1. Hearing the cancer is back

    Shock, anger, and sometimes guilt about the first choice of treatment are common. Some men feel they are starting over.

    What helpsRemember that a local recurrence found early, on PSA and imaging, is often still curable. Take time, bring someone to visits, and get opinions from both a surgeon and a radiation oncologist.

  2. Deciding

    Weighing a second chance at cure against a higher chance of leakage is hard, and there is rarely one clear right answer.

    What helpsAsk your surgeon for their own numbers for leakage, scar narrowing and rectal injury. Ask what life would look like with each option, including hormone therapy.

  3. Waking up

    Grogginess, a sore throat, the catheter urge, and soreness at the cuts and drain.

    What helpsTell the nurse early about pain or nausea. Most of this settles within a day.

  4. The longer catheter weeks

    Two or three weeks with a catheter can feel endless. Spasms may be stronger because radiation makes the bladder more irritable.

    What helpsUse a leg bag under loose clothes so you can get out of the house. Ask about spasm medicine. Count down to the dye test date.

  5. After the catheter comes out

    Leakage is often heavier and slower to improve than men expected, even when they were warned. Frustration and low mood are common.

    What helpsUse products that truly contain the leakage so you can stay active. Keep doing pelvic floor therapy. Know that an artificial urinary sphincter works well for many men after radiation if leakage stays bad.

  6. Sex and intimacy

    For many men, erections were already weaker after radiation, and surgery takes away what was left. This loss can feel heavy.

    What helpsTalk with your partner and your team. A penile implant is a reliable option for many men after salvage surgery, and closeness and pleasure do not depend on erections alone.

  7. The first PSA

    This test often carries more weight than any before it.

    What helpsKnow the date and how you will hear the result. Ask ahead of time what number your team expects.

How well it works

Success means the cancer is removed with clear margins, the PSA falls to undetectable and stays there, and you recover as much urinary control as possible.

  • Cancer control

    In large series, many carefully selected men, often more than half, have no rise in PSA five years later. Results are best when the PSA before surgery is low and the cancer is still confined to the prostate.

  • The pathology report

    The report shows the grade, the stage, the margins and the lymph nodes. Cancer in the nodes or at the margins may lead to hormone therapy or other treatment.

  • PSA after surgery

    The PSA should become undetectable. If it does not, or later rises, your team will discuss imaging and further treatment.

  • Urinary control

    Leakage is common and improves more slowly than after first-time surgery. A good share of men regain useful control by a year; others benefit from an artificial urinary sphincter.

  • Sexual function

    Most men have erection problems afterward. Treatments, including a penile implant, help many men have sex again.

Risks

Every operation has risks. These are the ones people ask about most, with honest odds where good numbers exist. Your surgeon’s own results matter more than averages.

Common

Urine leakageMost men at first; lasting leakage in roughly 1 in 3 to 1 in 2 men in many series

Leakage is more common, often heavier, and slower to improve than after a first-time prostatectomy. Some men later choose an artificial urinary sphincter.

Erection problemsMost men

Most men have weak or no erections afterward, often because radiation had already affected them and the nerves are usually removed.

No semen and no natural fertilityEveryone

Orgasm can still happen but is dry. This is permanent.

Bladder spasms and catheter discomfort

Common while the catheter is in, and the catheter stays longer than after a first-time operation.

Gas pain

Shoulder-tip pain and bloating for 1 to 3 days.

Less common

Scar narrowing at the joinAbout 1 in 10 to 1 in 5 men in many series

Scar can narrow the join between bladder and urethra months later, causing a weak stream or trouble passing urine. It may need one or more scope procedures.

Urine leak at the join

Slower healing means the join may leak for longer. Usually the catheter simply stays in longer until it seals.

Rectal injuryAbout 1 to 5 in 100 in modern robotic series

The rectum may be stuck to the prostate by scar. Injuries are usually seen and repaired during surgery.

Lymph fluid collection (lymphocele)

Fluid can collect after lymph node removal. A large one may need draining.

Infection

Urine and wound infections are treated with antibiotics.

Blood clots

Clots in the leg veins or lungs. Walking, leg sleeves and blood thinner shots lower the risk.

Rare

Fistula between urethra and rectum

An abnormal channel that lets urine pass into the rectum or gas into the urine. It needs a major repair and sometimes a temporary colostomy.

Temporary colostomy

If a rectal injury is large, the bowel may be brought out on the belly for a few months to let the repair heal.

Bladder too damaged to rejoin

Very rarely, radiation damage means the bladder cannot be safely rejoined, and the bladder is removed with a new urinary diversion made from bowel. Your surgeon will tell you if this is a real possibility for you.

Bleeding, ureter or nerve injury, or change to open surgery

Rare, and usually managed during the operation.

Call your care team or go to the emergency room if

  • Fever of 101°F (38.3°C) or higher, or shaking chills.
  • No urine draining into the bag for more than 1 to 2 hours, especially with lower belly pain. Check for kinks first, then call.
  • The catheter falls out or slips. Call your surgeon right away and do not let anyone place a new one without speaking to your surgeon.
  • Gas, bubbles or stool in the urine, or urine coming from the rectum.
  • Thick blood or clots in the urine that do not clear, or that block the catheter.
  • Swelling or pain in one calf or thigh. Call 911 for sudden shortness of breath or chest pain.
  • Belly pain that keeps getting worse, a swollen belly, repeated vomiting, or rectal pain or bleeding.
  • After the catheter is out: you cannot pass urine, or your stream becomes very weak over days to weeks.

Questions to ask your surgeon

  1. How many salvage prostatectomies have you done, and what are your results for leakage, scar narrowing and rectal injury?
  2. What do my biopsy and PSMA PET show, and how sure are we that the cancer is only in the prostate?
  3. How does surgery compare with salvage HIFU, freezing or more radiation for my situation?
  4. Will you remove lymph nodes?
  5. Is any nerve sparing realistic for me?
  6. How long will I have the catheter, and will you do a dye test before removing it?
  7. Do I need a bowel prep, and what is the chance I would need a colostomy?
  8. What is the plan if leakage is still heavy after a year?
  9. Should I take hormone therapy before or after surgery?
  10. What PSA result do you expect after surgery, and what would we do if it does not become undetectable?

Words you may hear

Pneumoperitoneum
The gas-filled belly that makes keyhole surgery possible. Carbon dioxide is pumped in through a thin needle or the first port until the belly wall lifts like a tent (usually at a pressure of 12 to 15 mmHg), giving the camera and instruments room to work. The gas is let out at the end, and the little that remains is absorbed and breathed out over a day or two; it can cause shoulder-tip ache in the meantime.
Salvage treatment
Treatment given when cancer comes back after a first treatment.
Biochemical recurrence
A rising PSA that shows cancer has come back, often before it can be seen on scans.
Phoenix definition
After radiation, a PSA rise of 2 ng/mL above the lowest PSA reached, used to define cancer returning.
PSMA PET scan
A scan using a tracer that sticks to a protein on prostate cancer cells, showing small areas of cancer in nodes and bones.
Fibrosis
Scar tissue that forms after radiation or other treatments, making tissues stiff and stuck together.
Denonvilliers fascia
The thin layer between the back of the prostate and the rectum.
Bladder neck contracture
Scar narrowing of the join between bladder and urethra, causing a weak stream.
Fistula
An abnormal channel between two organs, such as the urethra and the rectum.
Cystogram
An X-ray taken while dye fills the bladder, to check that the join has healed before the catheter comes out.
Artificial urinary sphincter
An implanted cuff around the urethra, controlled by a pump in the scrotum, that treats severe leakage.
Hormone therapy (ADT)
Medicines that lower or block testosterone to slow prostate cancer.
Colostomy
An opening of the large bowel on the belly into a bag, sometimes used for a few months to let a rectal repair heal.

Common questions

Why is surgery after radiation so much harder?

Radiation leaves scar tissue that sticks the prostate to the rectum and bladder and reduces blood supply. The normal planes that guide a surgeon are harder to find, and tissues heal more slowly.

Is it worth the risks?

For a healthy man whose cancer is truly confined to the prostate, salvage surgery offers a real chance of cure and can avoid years of hormone therapy. For others, HIFU, freezing, more radiation or hormone therapy may be a better fit. This is a personal decision made with your team.

Will I definitely leak?

Nearly every man leaks at first, and leakage after salvage surgery is more common and lasts longer than after a first-time operation. Some men become dry or nearly dry; others are helped by an artificial urinary sphincter.

Could I end up with a colostomy?

It is rare. Most rectal injuries are small and repaired during surgery without one. Your surgeon can tell you your own risk.

Is surgery after HIFU or freezing easier than after radiation?

Usually yes. Scarring after focal treatment is often patchier and limited to the treated area, so the operation is closer to a first-time prostatectomy, though still more demanding.

What if the PSMA PET missed some cancer?

PSMA PET can miss very small deposits. That is one reason the lymph nodes are removed and checked, and why PSA tests continue after surgery.

Sources this page draws on

  • European Association of Urology, EAU-EANM-ESTRO-ESUR-ISUP-SIOG Guidelines on Prostate Cancer (section on salvage treatment after radiotherapy)
  • American Urological Association, American Society for Radiation Oncology and Society of Urologic Oncology, Advanced Prostate Cancer: AUA/ASTRO/SUO Guideline (2020)
  • American Urological Association and Society of Urodynamics, Female Pelvic Medicine and Urogenital Reconstruction, Incontinence after Prostate Treatment: AUA/SUFU Guideline (2019)
  • International Journal of Radiation Oncology, Biology, Physics, Defining biochemical failure following radiotherapy with or without hormonal therapy: recommendations of the RTOG-ASTRO Phoenix Consensus Conference (2006)
  • American Cancer Society, Treating Prostate Cancer That Doesn't Go Away or Comes Back After Treatment

Written November 2026. This page explains what usually happens. It is not medical advice and does not replace a conversation with your own surgeon, whose plan for you comes first.